Back at the shop move...

robinson46176 · Post by **robinson46176** » Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:51 am

mrhart wrote:Being an HVAC guy, I see the supply and return ducting, are you going to tap off those for heat or did you come up with a separate source?

The new wall is on the west side. The east wall (outside wall) has two heat outlets (currently capped) that I can use if needed. So far my only heat problem is getting the shop less hot. The wood furnace puts out a lot of radiant heat and I will pipe all of its hot air output out of the shop. Next summer I want to build a new chimney and move it completely out of the shop. At that point I may want to open those two heat outlets or at least one of them.

If anyone wonders why we use a wood furnace... This is a very large spread out house with a lot of glass. Our "T" shaped living room is 1,100 sq. ft. The last year we used the gas furnace the heat bill for January was over $1000... Even buying all of our wood (I'm getting lazy) I will not spend that much for heating the entire winter. More like $700 to $800 for the winter.

mrhart · Post by **mrhart** » Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:57 am

robinson46176 wrote:The new wall is on the west side. The east wall (outside wall) has two heat outlets (currently capped) that I can use if needed. So far my only heat problem is getting the shop less hot. The wood furnace puts out a lot of radiant heat and I will pipe all of its hot air output out of the shop. Next summer I want to build a new chimney and move it completely out of the shop. At that point I may want to open those two heat outlets or at least one of them.

If anyone wonders why we use a wood furnace... This is a very large spread out house with a lot of glass. Our "T" shaped living room is 1,100 sq. ft. The last year we used the gas furnace the heat bill for January was over $1000... Even buying all of our wood (I'm getting lazy) I will not spend that much for heating the entire winter. More like $700 to $800 for the winter.

By wood furnace, do mean wood stove? And by gas, propane or natural? Take pics of these if you get time.

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:04 am

mrhart wrote:By wood furnace, do mean wood stove? And by gas, propane or natural? Take pics of these if you get time.

Furnace as in the last pix posted.

Rural, so I would bet Propane.

robinson46176 · Post by **robinson46176** » Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:02 pm

[quote="JPG40504"]Furnace as in the last pix posted.

Rural, so I would bet Propane.[/QUOT]

Half right...

Wood furnace, ducted hot air. about 120,000 BTU. It serves us well. I have about 20 acres of woods but I don't cut much these days. We have a guy that will bring us a load of very good seasoned stuff and stacks it very carefully for $60. His tightly stacked rick always measures well over 4' x 8'. A load will normally last us about 9-10 days depending on the weather. Not bad considering that we are heating about 4,000 sq. ft. and we don't like to get cold. Pretty good distribution and a lot of thermal mass is what makes it work.

Pipeline gas. There is a 10" 400 PSI line running along my road fence that was put in especially for the now gone General Electric plant.
It is a tiny line compared to the about 4' high pressure REX line that runs across the country about a mile south of me.
The gas company p!$$ed me off and I told them to pull the meter, we were done... That was about 3 or 4 years ago.

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JPG · Post by **JPG** » Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:46 pm

robinson46176 wrote: . . .
The gas company p!$$ed me off . . .

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Imagine that!:D

Ed in Tampa · Post by **Ed in Tampa** » Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:22 pm

robinson46176 wrote:
JPG40504 wrote:Furnace as in the last pix posted.

Rural, so I would bet Propane.[/QUOT]

Half right...
Wood furnace, ducted hot air. about 120,000 BTU. It serves us well. I have about 20 acres of woods but I don't cut much these days. We have a guy that will bring us a load of very good seasoned stuff and stacks it very carefully for $60. His tightly stacked rick always measures well over 4' x 8'. A load will normally last us about 9-10 days depending on the weather. Not bad considering that we are heating about 4,000 sq. ft. and we don't like to get cold. Pretty good distribution and a lot of thermal mass is what makes it work.

Pipeline gas. There is a 10" 400 PSI line running along my road fence that was put in especially for the now gone General Electric plant.
It is a tiny line compared to the about 4' high pressure REX line that runs across the country about a mile south of me.
The gas company p!$$ed me off and I told them to pull the meter, we were done... That was about 3 or 4 years ago.

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You should have kept the connection. When I lived in Ohio the gas company was not allowing new customers. A gas connection was worth a kings ransom.
I don't know if that changed or not but I had a house burn down in 1976 and I was able to sell the property for nearly double since it had gas on it.

mrhart · Post by **mrhart** » Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:40 pm

So what do you use for air conditioning on the main house?
Natural gas would be better than propane for cost anyhow, at least thats the way the utilities shake out hear.

mrhart · Post by **mrhart** » Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:41 pm

I don't know if that changed or not but I had a house burn down in 1976 and I was able to sell the property for nearly double since it had gas on it.[/quote]

Thats crazy! never heard of such a thing.

robinson46176 · Post by **robinson46176** » Fri Jan 13, 2012 6:53 pm

mrhart wrote:I don't know if that changed or not but I had a house burn down in 1976 and I was able to sell the property for nearly double since it had gas on it.

Thats crazy! never heard of such a thing.[/QUOTE]

It doesn't really matter in this case, I intend to die in this house unless they take it away from me for another use (highway, power lines, rail line relocation, big money huge development etc. {all eminent domain stuff}...

That may all change if my wife wins a $140,000,000 lottery.

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robinson46176 · Post by **robinson46176** » Fri Jan 13, 2012 7:02 pm

mrhart wrote:So what do you use for air conditioning on the main house?
Natural gas would be better than propane for cost anyhow, at least thats the way the utilities shake out hear.

When I tell people how we do the AC they keep insisting that it cannot possibly work... even though it has been not working quite acceptably for 3 years now...

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