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1962 Goldie Disassembly

#77712 by ddvann79 » Sun Nov 07, 2010 11:24 pm

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A.O. Smith Motor - Photos, End Plates, End Plate #1, End Plate #2, Instructions 2, Internal Photos, Basic Diagram
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Quill Feed Washer - Does the Goldie Need One?, Not Necessarily
High Speed Adjustment - What Happens Without It, Rough Adjustment, More on the HS Adjustment
Burned Up Motor - The Symptoms, Ohm Readings
Base Assembly - Photos, Leveling, Casting Defect, Tube Depth Solution
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Well, I finally got a free weekend and got Dad's Goldie disassembled to the major assemblies. I've hit it with penetrating oil a few times and fiddling with it off and on until now. It took some searching of this forum before I figured out NOT to drill out the retaining pin in the base arm but to punch it through. I also was slow to realize there were set screws that held the tubes in place under all those dirt dobber nests.

Now comes the task of tacking each assembly and I'm starting with the carriage. I'm still waiting on a copy of a manual I ordered on Ebay to come in. Until then (and probably after), I'm gingerly applying leverage to some of these parts in fear of stripping threads or breaking a casting. I'm having trouble getting the lock rod to come loose from the wedges in the carriage. The exploded view in the online repair catalog hasn't been much help so far. I feel like I need something to hold one wedge tight and then back the rod out of it. Am I right? I guess the same goes for the pinion shaft. Is the retaining washer all that's holding it in place?

Here are some photos of the project so far. I've also run into a casting defect that should be fun to repair.

Getting Started:
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Headstock, carriage and way tubes:
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Carriage underside with dirt dobber nests:
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All disassembled:
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Tubes and dirt dobbers again:
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Dalton
Fort Worth, Texas
1962 MK 5 #373733 Goldie

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#77715 by mickyd » Mon Nov 08, 2010 12:45 am

Seeing your beast brings back fond memories for me. I'll be watching your progress for sure.

Something in this thread should help you out with your tubes.

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Mike
Sunny San Diego
Mark 5 "Greenie" SN 309828, Born Oct '55, Acquired Feb '09, Born Again May '09
Mark 5 Jigsaw SN 65001, Born Aug '55
Mark 5 "Greenie" SN 287942, Born Dec '54, Acquired Oct '09. Came with Magna Eng. Jointer SN 17792, Born Jun '54, awaiting restoration
ER10 - SN 72883, Born ~Sep '52, Acquired Apr '09, Restoration started Jun '09, Born Again Jan '10
ER jigsaw, awaiting restoration
Pro Planer SN??, Born ?, Acquired Mar '10

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#77720 by easterngray » Mon Nov 08, 2010 7:48 am

I restored a 1960 Goldie that looks to have been only a little better than yours. Here's the link to my thread:
http://www.shopsmith.net/forums/showthread.htm?t=390
See posts # 13 and #15 for way and bench tube restoration info. I love the Goldies and can't wait to see yours restored! Alec

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1960 Aniversary Model Mark 5 500 "Goldie" with most SPT's

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#77723 by ddvann79 » Mon Nov 08, 2010 8:29 am

mickyd wrote:Something in this thread should help you out with your tubes.


Thanks, Mike. I've got your community thread index, 1955 Greenie Restoration Index, and Everything Mark 5 pages all bookmarked. I have a bad habit of just wanting to look at the pictures though!

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Dalton

Fort Worth, Texas

1962 MK 5 #373733 Goldie

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#77724 by ddvann79 » Mon Nov 08, 2010 8:39 am

easterngray wrote:I restored a 1960 Goldie that looks to have been only a little better than yours. Here's the link to my thread:
http://www.shopsmith.net/forums/showthread.htm?t=390
See posts # 13 and #15 for way and bench tube restoration info. I love the Goldies and can't wait to see yours restored! Alec


Alec, your machine is definitely an inspiration. Seeing yours reminds me there are some parts I'd like to add to mine, like the miter slot extension and grip. Dad says he never had those extras. I'm just hoping we find all the other parts to this machine that are still missing some time this Christmas. Things like the drill chuck, lathe and sanding discs, chisels, wrenches, blades, etc. They are supposedly in a box "somewhere" in one of his storage buildings. If it wasn't bolted or rusted to the SS when I picked it up, I don't have it. Dad says he wants to wait until the cold weather sets in to go digging through boxes to avoid the copper heads. I think he just doesn't want to look through stuff that has been in boxes for 30 years.

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Dalton

Fort Worth, Texas

1962 MK 5 #373733 Goldie

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#77726 by mickyd » Mon Nov 08, 2010 9:04 am

ddvann79 wrote:Thanks, Mike. I've got your community thread index, 1955 Greenie Restoration Index, and Everything Mark 5 pages all bookmarked. I have a bad habit of just wanting to look at the pictures though!

Glad you found those Dalton. There is a lot of miscellaneous reading in those. The indexes in the first post will definitely help locate info vs. weeding through the entire threads. Where there's info, there's usual photo involved. (you can tell I like taking pictures :D )

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Mike

Sunny San Diego

Mark 5 "Greenie" SN 309828, Born Oct '55, Acquired Feb '09, Born Again May '09

Mark 5 Jigsaw SN 65001, Born Aug '55

Mark 5 "Greenie" SN 287942, Born Dec '54, Acquired Oct '09. Came with Magna Eng. Jointer SN 17792, Born Jun '54, awaiting restoration

ER10 - SN 72883, Born ~Sep '52, Acquired Apr '09, Restoration started Jun '09, Born Again Jan '10

ER jigsaw, awaiting restoration

Pro Planer SN??, Born ?, Acquired Mar '10

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#77740 by ddvann79 » Mon Nov 08, 2010 11:54 am

mickyd wrote:Where there's info, there's usual photo involved. (you can tell I like taking pictures :D )


And I appreciate it! I'm the same way. I like video too and digital cameras make that pretty easy to do. Here's a video on my most recent tinkering project: a homemade hobby table saw. I'm experimenting with video editing in Windows 7. :D I hope to post some videos of this Goldie restoration project also.

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Dalton

Fort Worth, Texas

1962 MK 5 #373733 Goldie

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Disassembly Instructions

#77798 by ddvann79 » Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:56 pm

This instruction set for disassembly would have been nice to have last weekend. I just found it today, tucked away in the PDF "Files and Plans" from a Sawdust Session. Would have saved me from beating on a tie bar with set screws still in place. :rolleyes:

Another point in favor of a Shopsmith Wiki.

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Dalton

Fort Worth, Texas

1962 MK 5 #373733 Goldie

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#77800 by mickyd » Tue Nov 09, 2010 9:38 pm

ddvann79 wrote:And I appreciate it! I'm the same way. I like video too and digital cameras make that pretty easy to do. Here's a video on my most recent tinkering project: a homemade hobby table saw. I'm experimenting with video editing in Windows 7. :D I hope to post some videos of this Goldie restoration project also.

Nice job on the video. I just saw your post from yesterday. Spent the day yesterday in 'sin city' for work so playing ShopSmith catch up.

That's a pretty cool 'cheap man's' table saw. Good presentation too. Got to admit though you freaked me out with your hands getting so close to the blade. Be careful!!

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Mike

Sunny San Diego

Mark 5 "Greenie" SN 309828, Born Oct '55, Acquired Feb '09, Born Again May '09

Mark 5 Jigsaw SN 65001, Born Aug '55

Mark 5 "Greenie" SN 287942, Born Dec '54, Acquired Oct '09. Came with Magna Eng. Jointer SN 17792, Born Jun '54, awaiting restoration

ER10 - SN 72883, Born ~Sep '52, Acquired Apr '09, Restoration started Jun '09, Born Again Jan '10

ER jigsaw, awaiting restoration

Pro Planer SN??, Born ?, Acquired Mar '10

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#77807 by ddvann79 » Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:05 am

Thanks, Mike. Several people have mentioned getting my hands too close. It might be the camera angle or my sensibilities are just unsafe.

I've spent the last few evenings researching the headstock rebuild and general disassembly. Since I'm new to the SS and since this machine hasn't been run in 30 years, I want to get a pretty firm grip on the mechanics of this thing before I crack it open. Incidentally, this is opposite my usual take-it-apart-first ask-questions-later approach.

EDIT 11-10-10: I've received several admonitions now from some experienced people stating that my fingers are too close to the blade in the table saw video. I have to admit... they are right. It's not smart to have the table sitting that high, as it is difficult to judge the distance to the blade, especially when reaching over it. Also, I had the blade a full 1" too high for the stock I was cutting. None of my family members have commented on the safety issue so maybe if they thought it wasn't an issue (and that's who I learned shop safety from) that's why I didn't think it was. Thanks to everyone for pointing that out and I hope all the novices out there everyone learns something from this.

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Dalton

Fort Worth, Texas

1962 MK 5 #373733 Goldie

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