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Mark VII - Another journey begins

#128115 by JPG » Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:46 pm

I picked up a Mark VII Sunday and will be refurbing it and will post pix etc as it goes. I like MickyD's index at the top of his journey(s) and will do the same here. I will split it into different threads as each major area is undertaken(so as to not create a humongous thread).

A few words about how I intend for this 'collection' to be used. One can begin from this thread and link to each of the 'sub' threads. Clicking on the 'return' arrow will bring you back to this 'top' thread. Using the 'close tab' function avoids the creation of a bunch of extra tabs. The link to this thread at the bottom of each 'sub' thread is intended to point here for those who encountered the 'sub' thread by other paths(search function etc.)

I am creating a second 'master' thread for the reassembly of the Mark VII.

http://www.shopsmith.net/forums/showthread.htm?p=135519#post135519



Aluminum cam surprise = post #2

INDEX

Upper assembly breakdown http://www.shopsmith.net/forums/showthread.htm?t=11385

Trunion Tweak http://www.shopsmith.net/forums/showthread.htm?p=128409#post128409

Initial headstock breakdown http://www.shopsmith.net/forums/showthread.htm?p=128413#post128413

Vacuum breakdown http://www.shopsmith.net/forums/showthread.htm?p=129548#post129548

Switch interlock lock and motor mount http://www.shopsmith.net/forums/showthread.htm?p=129550#post129550

Power switch http://www.shopsmith.net/forums/showthread.htm?p=128417#post128417

Quill feed and quill http://www.shopsmith.net/forums/showthread.htm?p=129551#post129551

Speed Control Breakdown http://www.shopsmith.net/forums/showthread.htm?t=11505

Main Shaft Breakdown http://www.shopsmith.net/forums/showthread.htm?t=11519

Belt Cover Breakdown http://www.shopsmith.net/forums/showthread.htm?t=11769

Idler Shaft Breakdown http://www.shopsmith.net/forums/showthread.htm?t=11809

Headstock Lock and Crank breakdown http://www.shopsmith.net/forums/showthread.htm?t=11810

Counter Shaft Breakdown http://www.shopsmith.net/forums/showthread.htm?t=11811

Headstock Misc. Breakdown http://www.shopsmith.net/forums/showthread.htm?t=11812

Motor Breakdown http://www.shopsmith.net/forums/showthread.htm?p=135172#post135172

Lower tubes Breakdown http://www.shopsmith.net/forums/showthread.htm?p=142861#post142861

Carriage Breakdown http://www.shopsmith.net/forums/showthread.htm?p=142982#post142982

Main Table Breakdown http://www.shopsmith.net/forums/showthread.htm?t=12647

Extension Table Breakdown http://www.shopsmith.net/forums/showthread.htm?t=12649

Rip Fence Breakdown http://www.shopsmith.net/forums/showthread.htm?t=12650

Base Assembly Breakdown viewtopic.php?f=10&t=16330&p=187890#p187888

Misc - Miter Gauge, Tail Stock and Tool Rest Breakdown http://www.shopsmith.net/forums/showthread.htm?t=12764

Shaper Fence http://www.shopsmith.net/forums/showthread.htm?t=12792


I will identify items that are of particular interest by their 'size'.

Bearings:

Main shaft................................ 25 x 52 x 15 mm - Same as 10E/er, Mark 5, Mark V

A O Smith Motor........................ 17 x 40 x 12 mm - same as all but Emerson 1 1/8 which has one with 5/8" id.

Quill ......................................5/8" x 35mm x 11mm - same as M5/V etc.

Idler shaft(2 bearings).....................Same as quill bearing *

* did not determine when assembled - appears as described after assembly.

Tension pins:

Speed control cam to shaft...................... 1/8" x 3/4"
Speed control cam follower..2 pins............. 1/8" x 1/2"
Carriage - headstock connect stop............ 1/8" x 1/2"
Tilt clamps ........................................... 1/8" x 5/8"
Carriage lock handle ............................... 1/8" x 1 1/2"
Rip fence lock handle pivot ...................... 1/8" x 7/8"
Rip fence rear clamp pivot........................ 3/16" x 1 1/4"
Rip fence front clamp pivot ...................... 3/16" x 1 1/4"
Miter Gauge clamp pivot .......................... ?? x ??
Foot pedal ............................................ 5/32" x 1 1/2"

Paint is gray wrinkle.


There are several design details that were a precursor to the Mark V 505-520.
The table height crank and lock.
The carriage lock.
The shaper fence mounts to two holes in the main table.




As advertised on E-Bay
b4 from e-bay.jpg
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Paint chipped on headstock and slight rust spots on base.

First post will be showing a 'surprise'.
Last edited by JPG on Wed Oct 11, 2017 7:13 pm, edited 2 times in total.

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Surprise! One good, one not so

#128116 by JPG » Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:02 pm

When examining the condition of 'the cam' I discovered a surprise = it is cast aluminum. Paperwork indicates the cam was purchased in 1990 with a few other parts.

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Also indicated in this pix is the other less desirable 'surprise'. The control sheave is not 'whole'. Hopefully JB Weld etc. will remedy that.

Not sure where the fuzzy wuzzy stuff came from nor if it indicates another problem.

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Mark Vii Upper Assembly Breakdown

#128194 by JPG » Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:10 am

http://www.shopsmith.net/forums/showthread.htm?p=128191&posted=1#post128191

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Metal!

#128261 by drdale » Thu Oct 18, 2012 8:43 pm

Sure would be great to figure out who made it and where it came from.

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#128263 by JPG » Thu Oct 18, 2012 9:14 pm

drdale wrote:Sure would be great to figure out who made it and where it came from.

It came from CA in 1990. Letter states that all parts were scavenged and there were only a few left. A control sheave was also obtained at that time.

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Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E(SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange

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#128433 by heathicus » Mon Oct 22, 2012 3:01 pm

Great information, here, JPG. Having never seen a Mark VII in person, I'm enjoying the teardown and the detailed pictures.

One suggestion I'd like to make however, would be to keep all of it in one thread instead of a separate thread for each component.

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Central Louisiana
-10ER - SN 13927, Born 1949, Acquired October 2008, Restored November, 2008
-10ER - SN 35630, Born 1950, Acquired April 2009, Restored May 2009, A34 Jigsaw
-Mark V - SN 212052, Born 1986, Acquired Sept 2009, Restored March 2010, Bandsaw
-10ER - SN 39722, Born 1950, Acquired March 2011, awaiting restoration

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#128462 by JPG » Tue Oct 23, 2012 12:35 am

heathicus wrote:Great information, here, JPG. Having never seen a Mark VII in person, I'm enjoying the teardown and the detailed pictures.

One suggestion I'd like to make however, would be to keep all of it in one thread instead of a separate thread for each component.

I understand that suggestion, but I made a conscious decision to do it the way I have started.

My 'thinking' is that the individual threads can provide quicker answers than having to read down through a humongous thread.

This does have a potential problem if one is continually linking to the 'sub' threads and linking back from them rather than closing the tab to return back. Each link would create a new tab etc.

I am trying to accomplish two different schemes. One can locate the 'sub' threads with the search function or link and return to the top thread. The link at the bottom of each 'sub' thread allows one to 'discover' the top thread.

We shall see how it turns out. I am trying to avoid an extremely long thread similar to MickyD's. Not that I think this one could get that large, since I do not intend to get into detail that repeats things already posted elsewhere(rust removal techniques, painting etc.).

My main purpose is to illustrate the Mark VII details and how I managed them and to provide Mark VII references.

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Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E(SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange

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#128482 by terrydowning » Tue Oct 23, 2012 11:43 am

I agree with your approach JPG.

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#128591 by maggeorge » Wed Oct 24, 2012 5:27 pm

Brilliant idea to have come up with the sub threads. I tried it and it worked efficiently.

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#128602 by heathicus » Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:34 pm

Obviously I'm in the minority and if this format works best for everybody else, then stick with it. I just find it chaotic and hard to follow. But that's just me and I can be ignored. :D

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Heath
Central Louisiana
-10ER - SN 13927, Born 1949, Acquired October 2008, Restored November, 2008
-10ER - SN 35630, Born 1950, Acquired April 2009, Restored May 2009, A34 Jigsaw
-Mark V - SN 212052, Born 1986, Acquired Sept 2009, Restored March 2010, Bandsaw
-10ER - SN 39722, Born 1950, Acquired March 2011, awaiting restoration

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