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Re: I'm doing a Power Pro Self Upgrade

#271930 by JPG » Thu Jul 02, 2020 4:18 pm

Proceed cautiously here. I am not 'sure' the clip positioned the eccentric flush with the casting. Since you are doing a M7 upgrade that includes the new sytle idler shaft, the clip would not make any sense.

What do the instructions say regarding all this on an "A" casting???

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Re: I'm doing a Power Pro Self Upgrade

#271934 by edma194 » Thu Jul 02, 2020 5:38 pm

Drilled and tapped a hole for a 10-24 screw and washer as a retainer for the eccentric bushing and the bearing. I 'snugged' up the cross bolt, didn't want to put pressure on the casting. I'm still not sure what's holding what but I have the split in the eccentric bushing all the way over to 9 o'clock so it should be good and tight in the casting. The article I reached from the 'Everything Mark V' thread says the retaining washer has to resist pressure trying to push the shaft back out of the casting, not sure if that applies to the Power Pro configuration.

The belt seemed to be aligned so I installed the power supply. The holes I had to drill worried me but the mounting tabs are slotted and with Tinnerman clips it worked out just fine.

So now it's time to remove the 510 head and mount the upgraded one and proceed with mounting the motor.

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Re: I'm doing a Power Pro Self Upgrade

#271935 by JPG » Thu Jul 02, 2020 6:18 pm

The positioning of the eccentric(adjusting slot) has no effect on the 'tightness' of the eccentric in the headstock. I suggest positioning it to 6 o'clock until belt tensioning occurs.

The control sheave pushes against the bearing so the screw/washer provide a stop. The screw and washer in the eccentric retain the bearing. The added screw and washer retain the eccentric.

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Re: I'm doing a Power Pro Self Upgrade

#271940 by edma194 » Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:25 pm

I see that I'll have to adjust the eccentric for belt tension. The eccentric and bearing seem to fit flush with the casting face when the belt is aligned, but this still worries me.

And there's always one more thing, putting the wedge locks back in the instructions mention installing two washers (part 120394). There are a couple of washer that came in the parts I haven't noticed used anywhere else. I assume they are intended to go between the casting and the wedge locks but no idea why. There's nothing about this in the upgrade video nor have I seen them mentioned in any other video. Perhaps it's only for later models, I don't see the point of using them.

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Re: I'm doing a Power Pro Self Upgrade

#271942 by JPG » Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:22 pm

edma194 wrote:I see that I'll have to adjust the eccentric for belt tension. The eccentric and bearing seem to fit flush with the casting face when the belt is aligned, but this still worries me.

And there's always one more thing, putting the wedge locks back in the instructions mention installing two washers (part 120394). There are a couple of washer that came in the parts I haven't noticed used anywhere else. I assume they are intended to go between the casting and the wedge locks but no idea why. There's nothing about this in the upgrade video nor have I seen them mentioned in any other video. Perhaps it's only for later models, I don't see the point of using them.


That makes two of us(twice).

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Re: I'm doing a Power Pro Self Upgrade

#271943 by reible » Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:32 pm

There is a spiral wrap that goes over the threads and the washers keep it in place so it doesn't get in the threads. The wrap protects the wires. Make sure you install this or your asking for having to take it apart again to fix.

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Re: I'm doing a Power Pro Self Upgrade

#271944 by JPG » Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:38 pm

Ah so!

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Re: I'm doing a Power Pro Self Upgrade

#271945 by edma194 » Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:40 pm

reible wrote:There is a spiral wrap that goes over the threads and the washers keep it in place so it doesn't get in the threads. The wrap protects the wires. Make sure you install this or your asking for having to take it apart again to fix.

Ed


Thanks Ed!

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Re: I'm doing a Power Pro Self Upgrade

#271954 by edma194 » Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:52 pm

Got the washers in the right place thanks to reible. Took the 510 head off the tubes and the carriage too while I was at it, then cleaned and waxed the tubes. Put the carriage back, put the upgraded headstock on. It's up in vertical mode with the table in the back, ready to begin mounting the motor. I think I can finally power it up tomorrow. Really hoping it actually turns on and the motor spins.

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Re: I'm doing a Power Pro Self Upgrade

#271971 by edma194 » Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:07 pm

If it's not one thing it's another. I finally took the motor out of the box and the plastic shroud over the fan is broken in two places where it screws in. This is probably due to rough handling because of the way it's packed, the different foam pieces can shift, the shroud is entirely enclosed in one piece of foam while several other pieces of foam surround the motor. I probably did this recently after removing parts and packing that would allow the motor to shift in the box.

I kind of doubt this is service item for sale, so I'm going to go ahead and patch in a piece that broke out, fill a crack, and then use washers where the screw attach points are broken. I'm thinking of using silicone because I don't know what kind of plastic it's made of and it will certainly hold it together and can take high temperatures. I won't try to install the motor until Monday though, I'll call SS just to see if it's an available part.

By Grabthar's hammer, by the suns of Worvan, I will get this upgrade completed!

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