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pocket screws

#266248 by rjent » Tue Jan 07, 2020 10:04 pm

I know reible uses them, who else? Do you like/dislike them, pro and cons.

I was introduced to them a few days ago and I like the speed and strength of the joints we got with them making some quick cabinet carcasses I made for a friend's shop.

So far I am kind of impressed. He was telling me that the Shakers actually invented the joint and used them as far back as the early 1800's.

What say you?

Thanks in advance!

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#266249 by stew » Tue Jan 07, 2020 10:15 pm

I have used the Kreg pocket system for years and really like the ease and strength. It is not for fine furniture where the joint will show but I have made ottomans corner cabinets and they all are hidden and can't be seen. I'm a fan

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#266261 by Gene Howe » Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:56 am

Dick, I wasn't around in the 1800s, but I'll take your word for it. However, the system has been in my shop for about 15 years. It makes good, strong joints. They were used on two Morris chair and ottoman builds. On the chairs, the screws connected the arms to the chair legs and were covered with the corbels. On the ottoman, they held the skirts to the legs and, were inside the underside.

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#266265 by joedw00 » Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:31 am

I have used them on corn hole broads and really like them.

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#266266 by RFGuy » Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:52 am

I have never tried pocket hole joints before, but I am not opposed to trying them. One question that I had is how strong are they for plywood where you attach two pieces at 90°? Say you have a cabinet carcass and you are attaching the back to the top, so end grain to face frame. I see them used for this on projects online and always wondered how strong this was in reality. My concern is the fact you would be drilling diagonally into the face frame through to the end grain. Isn't tearout and possible plywood delamination a concern here? Does it work well on 3/4" but not so well for 1/2" because of this, or are my concerns not valid? For solid wood, I expect the joint to be strong, but it seems to me that plywood at 90° may not hold that well. Just asking to try to understand since I have no experience with them.

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#266277 by davebodner » Wed Jan 08, 2020 1:18 pm

When faced with the prospect of making 21 drawers for my wife's crafts cabinet, I went with 1/2" baltic birch and pocket screws. Another 1/2" piece of baltic birch for a false front, and the drawers look good and they're holding up fine.

I used the least expensive Kreg jig. I could've probably been more efficient with a more expensive jig.

So far I'm happy.

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#266288 by wa2crk » Wed Jan 08, 2020 4:18 pm

Joedw00
You used pocket hole screws on WHAAAT? :D I love typos!!
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#266291 by john » Wed Jan 08, 2020 5:07 pm

I have used them on a variety of projects from face frames to attaching the legs to dog dish holders. They work well and I like them for projects that don't require fancy joints.

John

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#266298 by rjent » Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:01 pm

OK guys, thanks, that really helps. He left his jig (simple two hole) and I have done some joints in solid wood. They seem very strong even without glue.

I think I will order one and get some screws :)

Again, great knowledgeable group!

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Dick

1965 Mark VII S/N 407684
1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
1951 jigsaw
1951 !0 ER #3 in rebuild
500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
2014 Mark 7 W/Lift assist - 14 4" Jointer - DC3300
And a plethora of small stuff .....


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#266313 by Hobbyman2 » Thu Jan 09, 2020 2:49 am

my dad uses the constantly and thinks highly of them . they are fast and easy to use .

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