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Re: A detective job for Saturday

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:46 pm
by JPG
Yeah, that is "more" than my definition of a "rectifier". :rolleyes:

Re: A detective job for Saturday

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 9:41 am
by garys
It seems to me that the original post was looking for suggestions on getting the machine running again. How did we get so lost in stray discussion?

CHECK THE SWITCH.

Re: A detective job for Saturday

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 11:18 am
by AEA
garys wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 9:41 am It seems to me that the original post was looking for suggestions on getting the machine running again. How did we get so lost in stray discussion?

CHECK THE SWITCH.
Is that your attempt to "rectify" the thread? :D (someone had to say it)

Re: A detective job for Saturday

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 11:30 am
by JPG
:D :D :D :D

Re: A detective job for Saturday

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 11:33 am
by RFGuy
Now forum members have become "rectifiers" as well....will the re-definition of technical terms ever end?
;)

Re: A detective job for Saturday

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 11:36 am
by JPG
RFGuy wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 11:33 am Now forum members have become "rectifiers" as well....will the re-definition of technical terms ever end?
;)
Only problem is, some are half wave. :rolleyes: :D

Re: A detective job for Saturday

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 11:41 am
by RFGuy
JPG wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 11:36 am Only problem is, some are half wave. :rolleyes: :D
😂

Re: A detective job for Saturday

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 10:54 pm
by DLB
BuckeyeDennis wrote: Fri Jul 16, 2021 1:43 pm When I replaced my failed switch, I wired both contacts in series, like Shopsmith used to do. When you open the switch contacts (i.e. turn off the switch), the inductance of the motor windings forces the current to continue arcing across the open contacts, just like the coil in an old-fashioned engine distributor forced an arc across the spark-plug gap. The arc continues until the inductive energy is dissipated, mostly as heat in the contacts themselves. So I figure that with two contacts sharing the energy-dissipation duties, they should last much longer than if using just one contact.

I saw a switch specification the other day that tends to support that theory. It was rated for 1 hp if using just one contact, but for 2 hp if both contacts were wired in series.
I think there's a relevant message hidden here. Or maybe only hidden from me. When I think of Marks using the two sets of switch contacts in series, I'm thinking of Hot and Neutral both being switched. That is the only way I've seen it. It is a fairly easy feature to add to unswitched neutral headstocks, just requires a couple of long-ish jumpers. But it would be much easier to switch the Hot only in series through both sets of switch contacts. Cuz it would only require one short jumper and you don't have to worry about wire routing through the moving mechanical bits. And you'd get the same benefits in terms of increased switch life and performance.(?)

- David

Re: A detective job for Saturday

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 5:17 am
by dusty
What evidence is there that two switches in series (in the hot side) is better? I have my doubts. My machine came with both hot and neutral switched.
The first time I needed a new switch, I installed it with a jumper kit provided with the switch to switch the hot side only. It has worked that way now for many years. It has worked through years of very heavy use (now just Sunday after church).

Re: A detective job for Saturday

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 6:26 am
by Gene Howe
New switch installed. Shorty is back!