How to lubricate when there are no holes for lubrication.
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How to lubricate when there are no holes for lubrication.
Hello All,
I have the Woodmaster 7 in 1 1981 Version of the shop smith 7-1.
It came with a green manual that states to turn on and set speed dial to Route-Shape first then turn off. Remove the name plate on back of headstock, hand turn spindle until a hole can be seen in the shaft. Add 3 drops of oil. No hole.
Also states there are holes in the motor shaft under the spring. Nope! Not there either. A 1 1/2" tube extends as a sleeve over shaft then both are surrounded by a spring. I'm supposed to hand turn spindle until the hole is exposed, but there isnt a hole.
I could get some oil in between the sleeve and shaft that extends from inside of spring but that may just make a mess.
I need to get this thing lubricated so I don't seize it or its parts.
PLS help!
I have the Woodmaster 7 in 1 1981 Version of the shop smith 7-1.
It came with a green manual that states to turn on and set speed dial to Route-Shape first then turn off. Remove the name plate on back of headstock, hand turn spindle until a hole can be seen in the shaft. Add 3 drops of oil. No hole.
Also states there are holes in the motor shaft under the spring. Nope! Not there either. A 1 1/2" tube extends as a sleeve over shaft then both are surrounded by a spring. I'm supposed to hand turn spindle until the hole is exposed, but there isnt a hole.
I could get some oil in between the sleeve and shaft that extends from inside of spring but that may just make a mess.
I need to get this thing lubricated so I don't seize it or its parts.
PLS help!
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Re: How to lubricate when there are no holes for lubrication.
Welcome to the forum. Assuming similarity to a Shopsmith... The lubrication holes are in the moving sheaves for speed control. Those are the Control Sheave on the Idler Shaft and the Floating Sheave (with spring) on the motor shaft. Early Mark 5s also lacked these holes. (In the 50's.) The easiest way to lubricate them if the speed control is working right is to put a little oil on the shafts and then manipulate the speed control, causing the sheaves to move and distribute the oil. Small applications, then turn the motor off and repeat.
If the speed control is not working right, that won't work because it won't distribute the oil. Disassembly, cleaning of the shafts, and lubrication is needed. In this case, it is possible to add the holes to the moving sheaves while they are off the shaft, making it easier next time.
I'm not familiar with your machine, but believe it to be one of several clones of the Shopsmith line. The above would apply if it is similar and lacks the lubrication holes. I was not able to view all of your pictures, we generally encourage users to add them as .jpg files or similar, which can show up in the thread, rather than .pdf.
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If the speed control is not working right, that won't work because it won't distribute the oil. Disassembly, cleaning of the shafts, and lubrication is needed. In this case, it is possible to add the holes to the moving sheaves while they are off the shaft, making it easier next time.
I'm not familiar with your machine, but believe it to be one of several clones of the Shopsmith line. The above would apply if it is similar and lacks the lubrication holes. I was not able to view all of your pictures, we generally encourage users to add them as .jpg files or similar, which can show up in the thread, rather than .pdf.
- David
Re: How to lubricate when there are no holes for lubrication.
From Jacob Andersons web site:
https://jacobvb.wordpress.com/maintenance-tips/
https://jacobvb.wordpress.com/maintenance-tips/
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Re: How to lubricate when there are no holes for lubrication.
I believe the phot showing the second lubrication point was taken by dusty
Here is a video showing how to lubricate the Shopsmith
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPOfNdYM8j0
Here is a video showing how to lubricate the Shopsmith
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPOfNdYM8j0
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Re: How to lubricate when there are no holes for lubrication.
Nope. I do not believe that image was mine. Good shot though. Thanks for posting it again.benmcn wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 9:57 pm I believe the phot showing the second lubrication point was taken by dusty
Here is a video showing how to lubricate the Shopsmith
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPOfNdYM8j0
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Re: How to lubricate when there are no holes for lubrication.
SplintersNmeoveralls,
Good information from the posts already made on how to lubricate a Shopsmith Mark 5/V. This may not apply to Shopsmith Clones. As David said the Sheaves on both the Motor Shaft and Idler Shaft can be lubricated without having the holes to put the oil directly into. Not the most desirable way to do it.
In your posts here and other threads you said
Referring to your pictures the first labeled 3.pdf you have circled a hole in the Idler Shaft Eccentric which on a Shopsmith is for a screw to retain the Idler Shaft Bearing and is not an oil hole. In your second picture the oil hole would be on the shaft that the left arrow is pointing to. If fully rotated and no hole is found you can try oiling it as suggested by David or remove the Idler Assembly to oil it and add a oil hole for future maintenance. For the third picture spring.pdf refer to the picture benmcn posted of a Mark 5/V Motor Shaft oil hole location.
If you do decide to add oil holes to the Sheaves of the Motor and Idler Shafts make sure to remove any burrs from drilling on the inside bore of the Sheaves so they will slide smoothly on their shafts. When removing the Sheave from the Motor Shaft care must be taken when removing the spring.
Good information from the posts already made on how to lubricate a Shopsmith Mark 5/V. This may not apply to Shopsmith Clones. As David said the Sheaves on both the Motor Shaft and Idler Shaft can be lubricated without having the holes to put the oil directly into. Not the most desirable way to do it.
In your posts here and other threads you said
Is the green manual you say you have one for the Woodmaster or is it a Shopsmith Manual? Like the others I am not familiar with the Woodmaster Shopsmith Clone. If the manual is for the Woodmaster and you don't have the holes in the Motor and Idler Shafts for lubricating, I suspect the makers of the Woodmaster may have copied their manual from the Shopsmith Manual neglecting to edit it for differences.I have the Woodmaster 7 in 1 1981 Version of the shop smith 7-1.
It came with a green manual that states to turn on and set speed dial to Route-Shape first then turn off. Remove the name plate on back of headstock, hand turn spindle until a hole can be seen in the shaft. Add 3 drops of oil. No hole.
Referring to your pictures the first labeled 3.pdf you have circled a hole in the Idler Shaft Eccentric which on a Shopsmith is for a screw to retain the Idler Shaft Bearing and is not an oil hole. In your second picture the oil hole would be on the shaft that the left arrow is pointing to. If fully rotated and no hole is found you can try oiling it as suggested by David or remove the Idler Assembly to oil it and add a oil hole for future maintenance. For the third picture spring.pdf refer to the picture benmcn posted of a Mark 5/V Motor Shaft oil hole location.
If you do decide to add oil holes to the Sheaves of the Motor and Idler Shafts make sure to remove any burrs from drilling on the inside bore of the Sheaves so they will slide smoothly on their shafts. When removing the Sheave from the Motor Shaft care must be taken when removing the spring.
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Mark V 520
All SPT's & 2 Power Stations
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored. Others to be restored.
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Re: How to lubricate when there are no holes for lubrication.
Thank you, thank you, thank you...
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Re: How to lubricate when there are no holes for lubrication.
Wow!
I am impressed with your post management. You got to this post rather quickly and your pictures where spot on save for the lube hole that I don't have on the Control Sheave on the Idler Shaft and the Floating Sheave.
I did find it hard to hand turn the control sheave. The very first turn was easy but after that it wasn't. I am going to have to take this apart to add the holes for future lubrication. However; I am unclear of this process. Are there any videos or pictures on how to disassemble? I really think you know your stuff and would trust your guidance. Your actually the first site manager that made it match to what I have.
Great job!
I am impressed with your post management. You got to this post rather quickly and your pictures where spot on save for the lube hole that I don't have on the Control Sheave on the Idler Shaft and the Floating Sheave.
I did find it hard to hand turn the control sheave. The very first turn was easy but after that it wasn't. I am going to have to take this apart to add the holes for future lubrication. However; I am unclear of this process. Are there any videos or pictures on how to disassemble? I really think you know your stuff and would trust your guidance. Your actually the first site manager that made it match to what I have.
Great job!
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Re: How to lubricate when there are no holes for lubrication.
You posting pix of what you have will be necessary. None of us has ever been inside a woodmaster. Your parts appear similar to the shopsmith parts, but there are likely differences other than the missing holes.
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Re: How to lubricate when there are no holes for lubrication.
Here is a video by Scott Markwood / mygrowthrings on oiling a shopsmith without the holes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQSGbudXUWk
You might find some of the headstock tear down videos by Jacob Anderson helpful should you choose to remove the sheave and add a lubrication hole. These videos are shopsmith specific but I imagine the process will be similar.
https://jacobvb.wordpress.com/youtube-videos-2/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQSGbudXUWk
You might find some of the headstock tear down videos by Jacob Anderson helpful should you choose to remove the sheave and add a lubrication hole. These videos are shopsmith specific but I imagine the process will be similar.
https://jacobvb.wordpress.com/youtube-videos-2/