Powerpro Competitor
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Powerpro Competitor
The "For The Love Of Wood" web site has a very interesting Powerpro alternative!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJEbHGBGc5s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJEbHGBGc5s
Re: Powerpro Competitor
Looks interesting. Wonder what the innards are like.
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Re: Powerpro Competitor
Interesting but... Lots of questions. Do you need a SS PowerPro to start with? If not whose motor and controller is this guy using? If you do need a SS power pro then you have to buy this guys controller for more money. Why? He has no web site so why would one promote this without a web site and an offer to sell his product?procrastinator wrote:The "For The Love Of Wood" web site has a very interesting Powerpro alternative!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJEbHGBGc5s
I don't see anything better than the SS unit. You can buy an after market stop switch pretty cheap so that is a non starter. Why would I want a knob for speed control as opposed to a push button? His remote is interesting but it does not have a readout for the speed so I still have to look under the table to set the speed I want. So I may as well push the speed buttons while I am looking under the table to see the speed setting with the remote.
I have to think SS will have something to say about this if it ever goes forward more than the video.
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Re: Powerpro Competitor
This guy use to be a traveling shopsmith sales person.... not sure if he is anymore???
Ed
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The control panel looks to be stock Nova, though the case is rearranged so the screen is below the controls, no doubt the motor and remote are also. One would have to wonder if the controls have been programed and tweaked for the Shopsmith like the Power Pro is.jsburger wrote:Interesting but... Lots of questions. Do you need a SS PowerPro to start with? If not whose motor and controller is this guy using? If you do need a SS power pro then you have to buy this guys controller for more money. Why? He has no web site so why would one promote this without a web site and an offer to sell his product?procrastinator wrote:The "For The Love Of Wood" web site has a very interesting Powerpro alternative!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJEbHGBGc5s
I don't see anything better than the SS unit. You can buy an after market stop switch pretty cheap so that is a non starter. Why would I want a knob for speed control as opposed to a push button? His remote is interesting but it does not have a readout for the speed so I still have to look under the table to set the speed I want. So I may as well push the speed buttons while I am looking under the table to see the speed setting with the remote.
I have to think SS will have something to say about this if it ever goes forward more than the video.
https://www.teknatool.com/product/nova- ... -for-1624/
I would suspect not. In his first video he said he had been a commercial banker for 30 years, one could wonder how much use he would be for technical support.reible wrote:This guy use to be a traveling shopsmith sales person.... not sure if he is anymore???
Ed
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Re: Powerpro Competitor
Having seen a few of his you tube stuff I am not impressed with his wood working expertise.rpd wrote:The control panel looks to be stock Nova, though the case is rearranged so the screen is below the controls, no doubt the motor and remote are also. One would have to wonder if the controls have been programed and tweaked for the Shopsmith like the Power Pro is.jsburger wrote:Interesting but... Lots of questions. Do you need a SS PowerPro to start with? If not whose motor and controller is this guy using? If you do need a SS power pro then you have to buy this guys controller for more money. Why? He has no web site so why would one promote this without a web site and an offer to sell his product?procrastinator wrote:The "For The Love Of Wood" web site has a very interesting Powerpro alternative!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJEbHGBGc5s
I don't see anything better than the SS unit. You can buy an after market stop switch pretty cheap so that is a non starter. Why would I want a knob for speed control as opposed to a push button? His remote is interesting but it does not have a readout for the speed so I still have to look under the table to set the speed I want. So I may as well push the speed buttons while I am looking under the table to see the speed setting with the remote.
I have to think SS will have something to say about this if it ever goes forward more than the video.
https://www.teknatool.com/product/nova- ... -for-1624/
I would suspect not. In his first video he said he had been a commercial banker for 30 years, one could wonder how much use he would be for technical support.reible wrote:This guy use to be a traveling shopsmith sales person.... not sure if he is anymore???
Ed
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Re: Powerpro Competitor
Looks like the control board is outside the motor case, away from the heat of the motor. Any one that knows electronics knows heat is a killer for electronics.
Also the speed control looks like a simple pot easily replaceable by owner. Also requires less electronics to operate.
Be interesting to see the price. If he brings it in $500 lower than SS, I would say he has a winner.
Also the speed control looks like a simple pot easily replaceable by owner. Also requires less electronics to operate.
Be interesting to see the price. If he brings it in $500 lower than SS, I would say he has a winner.
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From one of his answers onYoutube:Ed in Tampa wrote:Looks like the control board is outside the motor case, away from the heat of the motor. Any one that knows electronics knows heat is a killer for electronics.
Also the speed control looks like a simple pot easily replaceable by owner. Also requires less electronics to operate.
Be interesting to see the price. If he brings it in $500 lower than SS, I would say he has a winner.
To be honest, I wish SS had done it this way. I am now having intermittent button response problems on the panel ....MarkwoodAcademy
1 day ago
Are you offering this for purchase? How about a URL?
FOR THE LOVE OF WOOD
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Yes, it will cost $1,375 and will include the stop button and remote. This compares to the PowerPro's cost of $2,159. URL will be posted soon. I have a few tweeks to the website, such as adding this video, before I publish and can get a URL. The website will answer a lot of questions.
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1965 Mark VII S/N 407684
1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
1951 jigsaw X 2
1951 !0 ER #3 in rebuild
500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
2014 Mark 7 W/Lift assist - 14 4" Jointer - DC3300
And a plethora of small stuff .....
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Re: Powerpro Competitor
A couple of observations. While this unit uses the same dvr motor as the Mark 7, it has a different sound. My Powerpro ia almost silent compared to this demo unit. Makes me wonder what internal parts remain that give it a most tradional mechanical headstock sound. My other observation is that I thought my Shopsmith band saws were noisy. They are quiet compared to his! All in all though, this may be a good way to go for those on a tight budget. I have seen these parts, or parts very similar, for sale online for a song!
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Re: Powerpro Competitor
My PP failed due to a failed power supply, not the control panel. Does not look like he has solved this issue.Ed in Tampa wrote:Looks like the control board is outside the motor case, away from the heat of the motor. Any one that knows electronics knows heat is a killer for electronics.
Also the speed control looks like a simple pot easily replaceable by owner. Also requires less electronics to operate.
Be interesting to see the price. If he brings it in $500 lower than SS, I would say he has a winner.
Fred