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chapmanruss wrote:JPG
I have not checked, but I suspect the MVII second slot is larger than the M5 second slot since the MVII is 10". I can vouch for a 10" blade in a Mark 5 goldie second slot being susceptable to 'milling' the table itself.
What is the length of the saw blade table insert slot and the extra slot. I am guessing here but can you lower the table father down using the extra slot than you can using the regular table insert slot since the table may not "bottom out" until it hits the arbor. The table hits the top of the headstock when using the table insert slot. I measured the one saw blade table insert I have for the 500 tables and it's opening is 10 1/2" long. It is an extra from restoring Mark 5/V's and I do not know when it was made.
I have since 'checked'. The MVII 'extra' slot is longer than the M5 'extra slot' by about 3/4" to 1"(I did not measure).

The table insert('normal' blade slot etc.) is the same for both models.

Yes the table will go lower(I have used that in the past).
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Re: new owner with missing parts

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JPG,

I miss spoke when I said
I have restored two Greenie Mark 5's (1956 & 1957) and a Goldie Mark 5 (Oct. 1960), none of which has a second slot.
I was just looking at the pictures of the Goldie I restored and it DOES have the extra slot. I checked the pictures of the Greenies I have restored and was correct that they do not have the extra slot. The 83 Mark V I restored does not either. I guess at my age it is better to know than try to remember.
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Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored. Others to be restored.
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NICE job on the Goldie!!!!!!
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E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
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JPG wrote:Sorry for harping, but ALL Mark 5's had the second slot.(At least until SS Inc. made new dies).
My 1954 does not have the slot in the table.
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Re: new owner with missing parts

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waytech,

Just curious since we were on the subject earlier in this post. How many screws hold your belt cover on?
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Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's & 2 Power Stations
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored. Others to be restored.
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Sorry I did not get back to this before. My headstock 8 screws on the belt cover.
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waytech wrote:Sorry I did not get back to this before. My headstock 8 screws on the belt cover.
An early "A" headstock. Wonder about a couple of other things! :rolleyes:
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JPG, what are you wondering about?
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Everett has been working on restoring the early Mark 5 manuals. He has restored a digital copy of my earliest Mark 5 Manual from 1954 believed to be the first one and another from Wileycoyte believed to be the second manual released. Differences in the machines show up in the parts list and drawings. Early Mark 5's had 8 screws holding on the belt cover. Later it was six and finally two. All in the "Greenie" era. The early Mark 5's did not have a "clutched" Drive Sleeve nor the Bearing Retainers on the Idler Bearings.This may be what JPG was wondering about. Check Everett's new manual additions on his google drive to compare which parts you have. Here is his link and check 1954+ Mark 5

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... sp=sharing

The Serial Number of your machine would also be helpful in knowing when it was made and to compare which parts it has.
Russ

Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's & 2 Power Stations
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored. Others to be restored.
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waytech wrote:JPG, what are you wondering about?
On another thread the drive sleeve has been discussed. I am curious if your 'early' model has a solid drive sleeve or has the clutched drive sleeve.
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Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10
E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
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